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Office Ladies | Episode 273 - Peacock Superfan Basketball with Karly Rothenberg
Jenna [00:00:04] I'm Jenna Fischer,
Angela [00:00:05] and I'm Angela Kinsey.
Jenna [00:00:06] We were on The Office together,
Angela [00:00:08] and we're best friends.
Jenna [00:00:09] And now, we're doing the ultimate Office lover's podcast, just for you.
Angela [00:00:14] Each week, we will dive deeper into the world of The Office with exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenes details, and lots of BFF stories.
Jenna [00:00:21] We're the Office Ladies 6.0.
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Jenna [00:00:25] Hello, hello!
Angela [00:00:27] Hi there.
Jenna [00:00:28] This is a fun episode.
Angela [00:00:29] It really is. It's a fun episode. I'm excited to do it. It's also a little rainy outside and we're inside, all cozy. I'm just happy to be here.
Jenna [00:00:37] Why don't you tell everybody what we're doing today, Ange?
Angela [00:00:39] I sure will. Today it's the super fan "Basketball" episode. We're gonna be talking a little bit about some of the new scenes added in.
Jenna [00:00:46] And we have a special guest that's gonna join us later. It's Karly Rothenberg, who played Madge from the Warehouse.
Angela [00:00:54] That is right. I mean Madge is, like, legend. Karly, by the way, has been acting professionally since 1986. She has a very long standing career as a guest star actor. I mean she's been in everything. I can't wait to hear her talk about her time on The Office.
Jenna [00:01:10] But first we're gonna kick things off with a chit chat suggestion. Angela, I am loving these chit chat suggestions that our Office Ladies community have been sending in.
Angela [00:01:20] They are so fun.
Jenna [00:01:21] And here is a really fun one that mentions the Basketball episode from Savannah in Fort Worth:
Savannah [00:01:29] Hi Office Ladies. After listening to Second Drink "Basketball," I realized it's one of my comfort episodes along with "the Dundees," "Email Surveillance," "Casino Night," and "The Convention." I was wondering, what are your comfort episodes from your favorite TV shows that y'all like? I love y'all's podcasts and the tidbits y'all give. Thanks for letting me ask my question.
Angela [00:01:51] Oh, Savannah, I just love that you love the tidbits. Okay, so let's answer her question, Jenna. What are your comfort things to watch?
Jenna [00:02:01] Yeah, I like to watch movies on repeat. So I have a few movies. I think you all know, one of my comfort movies is "The Edge." We broke it down here on Office Ladies in a two parter, by the way.
Angela [00:02:15] Yeah, by the way. Mhm.
Jenna [00:02:17] I think my three main go to comfort movies are "The Edge," "Moonstruck," and "Phantom Thread." Do you know "Phantom Thread," with Daniel Day Lewis? Where he plays the old timey fashion designer?
Angela [00:02:30] I watched it three nights ago.
Jenna [00:02:32] What?!
Angela [00:02:33] Yes. I love this movie. We've never discussed it.
Jenna [00:02:37] How am I just learning this now?
Angela [00:02:39] I know. I love this movie. So, I watched it a long time ago and then I rewatched it a month ago and then my son Jack was like, "I really wanna watch that movie" and I said, "I'll re watch it with you again." So I've just watched it twice now in the last five weeks.
Jenna [00:02:55] I love it so much.
Angela [00:02:56] I love how irritated he gets at the smallest things. I just when she's, like, buttering her toast - I could rewatch that scene. I could live in that scene. It's so delicious.
Jenna [00:03:10] I wanna eat the breakfast that he eats in that movie, all the time. With all the little... The you know, the butter has its own little dome cover and all the china and all the accoutrement that comes with this breakfast.
Angela [00:03:24] We had to Google one of his breakfast orders, its a rabbit's um... Oh crap, what does he call it?
Jenna [00:03:30] Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I can't remember.
Angela [00:03:32] Well, it's not actually rabbit, it's just how it's prepared. So we had to Google that. But yeah.
Jenna [00:03:37] Well Angela, what about you? Do you have a comfort TV show, or what?
Angela [00:03:41] I do. I mean, all through the pandemic we watched "The Great British Bake Off." I absolutely love it. I will rewatch an episode of that if I just need to wind down. It doesn't matter what seasons. I have some favorite seasons, but I will just pop it on. This goes, actually, for my whole family. For Josh and the kids. If we just want something where we we don't have time to invest in a whole new episode of something. Like, it's a school night, but we want to watch a little something. We'll watch a Great British Bake Off.
Jenna [00:04:10] I mean, that tracks with Josh as a baker as well.
Angela [00:04:13] Yeah, yeah. My favorite movie is "Pride and Prejudice," and I rewatch it all the time. All the time. I mean, multiple times a year, I'll just put it on and watch it.
Jenna [00:04:25] Yeah, and I've never seen it.
Angela [00:04:26] I know! It's just crazy to me. You know, I would say that I need you to watch it and have us break it down, but I don't think we need to break it down. What I would rather do, is have a BFF date and I would make a pot of tea and maybe make some patisseries.
Jenna [00:04:41] Mm-hmm.
Angela [00:04:41] Maybe like a little tea party, and you and I watch Pride and Prejudice, in real life, on a couch next to each other.
Jenna [00:04:48] I mean, done. Let's please do this.
Angela [00:04:51] Okay, great! I'm excited.
Jenna [00:04:53] We've been saying that we're looking for a BFF hang.
Angela [00:04:55] I know.
Jenna [00:04:55] You were looking at crafting classes. I wanted to go see the Bisa Butler exhibit, but it closed. And so I think this is our thing. This is gonna be our BFF date.
Angela [00:05:10] Tea and Pride and Prejudice. Yay.
Jenna [00:05:11] Oh, Savannah, thank you so much for sending in your chit-chat suggestion. Everyone, the folder is on officeladies.com. Head over there, send us your suggestions. But now let's dive into today's episode. We're talking about the super fan episode of Basketball, which was written and directed by Greg Daniels. You know, the super fan episode is almost twice as long as the original broadcast version. The broadcast version is 22 minutes and 13 seconds, and the super fan is 39 minutes and 50 seconds.
Angela [00:05:44] I know. Well, speaking of how much longer this episode is, I reached out to our amazing editor, director of The Office, Dave Rogers. If you guys remember, Dave was on talking about how he put together these super fan episodes. He made us a list of his top ten favorites that he's done so far, and basketball made the list. So I asked him to share about it, and here's what he had to say about the additional footage. And I quote:
[00:06:11] There are 13 minutes of deleted scenes restored. These are scenes that were either on the DVDs or the NBC website. Then there's about six minutes of new material added that no one's ever seen. This episode is a great example of what the super fan episodes are all about: to have these great deleted scenes and new material restored within the context of the show, as opposed to just seeing them loose or tied together with other deleted scenes.
Angela [00:06:39] And then he sent me his itemized list of each scene he added back in. It's just so impressive, the amount of work him and his team are doing. It was, like, two pages of a list. It tells you if it's a deleted scene or new material, newfound stuff. Neat, right?
Jenna [00:06:56] Wow. Well, I thoroughly enjoyed this super fan episode.
Angela [00:07:00] Me too.
Jenna [00:07:02] The Basketball super fan episode kicks off the same way that the broadcast version does, with Michael entering and asking Jim if he's ready. Then they show one another their gym bags, and then Michael points to Ryan and Ryan holds up his bag. Well, we got a question from Kelly C in Pittsburgh who said this:
[00:07:22] My question is from the Basketball episode. When Michael is going around the bullpen asking if everyone brought their clothes, Ryan holds up a plastic bag that seems sealed up, like it was an online clothing order. It made me think that Ryan had to order something to wear to play basketball in the office that day. Because otherwise it might have been a duffel, or a bag from home. I notice it every time I see that episode and imagine that Ryan had to place an Amazon order for athletic wear because Michael wanted him to play.
Jenna [00:07:53] Well, Kelly, I think you're on to something. I went to the shooting draft of Basketball, and in the script, the writers wrote in very specific descriptions of everyone's bag.
Angela [00:08:06] What'd it say?
Jenna [00:08:07] It says, "Jim holds up an athletic bag. Michael holds up a Nike bag. Dwight holds up an Adidas bag. And Ryan holds up a shopping bag."
Angela [00:08:20] See, it was completely intentional.
Jenna [00:08:22] Yes, Kelly, I think Ryan had to quickly buy clothes to play basketball in.
Angela [00:08:26] I always noticed that bag too, by the way. So I love that question. Sidebar.
Jenna [00:08:31] Yeah?
Angela [00:08:31] Growing up, my friends called Adidas (US pronunciation) Adidas (UK pronunciation) because they were from Australia.
Jenna [00:08:39] Oh, that's how it on that British show "Glow Up." Do you know Glow Up?
Angela [00:08:42] I don't.
Jenna [00:08:42] Okay. It's great British baking show except makeup. So it's a bunch of makeup artists and they're vying to be the winner of doing makeup. They had a campaign one season for Adidas.
Angela [00:08:56] Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Jenna [00:08:58] And so now my daughter and I call it Adidas (UK pronunciation).
Angela [00:09:00] Yeah, I always almost call it Adidas (UK pronunciation) because that's what I heard growing up. Anyway, sorry. Okay. I wanna bring up this. There's a new bit that's added to the super fan episode. When Michael goes to get his messages from Pam, at front reception, we learn where Michael shops for his pants, y'all! I thought you had to hear it:
audio clip - Michael [00:09:23] Pam pam, thank you, ma'am. Messages, please. Thank you.
audio clip - Pam [00:09:28] New pants?
audio clip - Michael [00:09:30] Yes. Thank you for noticing.
audio clip - Jim [00:09:34] I really like those pleats, Michael.
audio clip - Michael [00:09:37] Oh, dude... You know.
audio clip - Pam [00:09:38] Abercrombie and Fitch?
audio clip - Michael [00:09:40] Uhh no... They look that good? Wow. Oh [in Austin Powers voice] "Pam, please behave." Mike Myers, genius. No, actually I got them at a fancier place, Tar-jay.
Angela [00:09:52] Oh, I'm sorry. [in a sing song voice] Tar-jay!
Jenna [00:09:55] Michael shops for pants at Target, everybody.
Angela [00:09:58] I know. I love that, but I also love the Tar-jay because that's what the ladies in my family say. Tar-jay or Jacques Pinay.
Jenna [00:10:05] What's Jacques Pinnay?
Angela [00:10:06] JC Penny's
Jenna [00:10:08] I don't know that one! I love that. Well, another fun thing about the super fan episode is that we are going to finally find out exactly what went wrong at this pick up basketball game with Todd Packer.
Angela [00:10:23] Oh, that was one of my favorite scenes in the original broadcast. [imitating Michael Scott]"Todd Packer?!" Like, Michael is so embarrassed. I want to know why.
Jenna [00:10:31] Yeah. Yes, in the broadcast version, there's this scene in Michael's office, and Dwight is begging to be in the basketball game in the warehouse, and Michael is saying "No, not after what happened at that pickup game I invited you to." You know, he's like, "I vouched for you in front of Todd Packer!" Well, in the super fan version, we cut away to a Dwight talking head, and here's what happened.
Angela [00:10:56] Ooooooh.
audio clip - Dwight [00:10:58] The pickup game incident. Well, what happened is I, I missed a couple passes that Michael threw me. I should have dove for them. I think about it all the time. Why didn't I dive for them?
Jenna [00:11:15] That's it.
Angela [00:11:15] That's it?
Jenna [00:11:16] That's it. He should have dove for a couple of passes. [laughing] Michael has been holding this grudge. It just sounds like Dwight didn't even really do anything that bad.
Angela [00:11:28] He didn't! Also, I'm willing to bet those passes were just wild and crazy and out of his reach. I mean, in the basketball game we see Michael trying to throw a pass and it goes into the warehouse truck.
Jenna [00:11:40] Yes.
Angela [00:11:41] Yeah.
Jenna [00:11:41] Yes.
Angela [00:11:42] Mm-hmm. Aww, Dwight.
Jenna [00:11:43] I know.
Angela [00:11:44] Alright. The next new scene we want to talk about is back at front reception. I love this moment. I'm going to describe it for you guys: Pam has taken it on herself to glue a piece of the desk panel that wraps around the front reception desk, right? It's just, like, that laminate peeling on a desk. It's cheapy and it's just popping off. So she's got a little bit of glue, like, Elmer's glue and she's trying to stick it back together. I just love this little moment because how many times have you worked somewhere and this desk has got a flap hanging off of it or something?
Jenna [00:12:17] Yes.
Angela [00:12:18] It's happened to me.
Jenna [00:12:19] Me too!
Angela [00:12:20] Anyway, Jim walks up and they start to be kind of flirty flirt. He grabs the glue and starts to glue all his hand. He lays his palm out and does glue all over the palm of his hands. And he's like, "Did you do this growing up? You know, how you'd put glue on your hand and you'd let it dry, and then you'd peel it off? Like you had a little second piece of skin.?" And they giggle and he does this, and then so he's got two hands full of glue, and then they both are blowing on his hands. It's very flirty. Pam is gently blowing on his hand, let me just say.
Jenna [00:12:54] Mm-hmm.
Angela [00:12:55] Mm-hmm. Then the phone rings, at front reception, and she's got to answer it. And it's Roy's mom, Vicki. She ends up being on the phone with Vicki for a while and it just gets awkward. And Jim is now just standing there with glue on his hands. He eventually just walks away and goes into the kitchen and washes the glue off his hands. It's a real womp womp.
Jenna [00:13:15] So this is one of those scenes, when I saw it in the super fan episode, I had forgotten that we did this and all these memories came pouring back. So the first thing that I remember is talking with Greg Daniels about glue, about doing silly things with glue, and with John. We talked about how "Did you do that thing with glue ?" I would glue in the shape of a fingernail and let it dry, and then I would peel the glue off and I would put it on my fingernail, you know, once it had hardened, and then I would color it with marker.
Angela [00:13:54] I never did that.
Jenna [00:13:55] And I told them this story and John was like, "Oh, I used to put it on my hands and you rub your hands together until it gets sticky and then it becomes like a putty and you can play with it after you peel it off your hands."
Angela [00:14:11] Well, I did the exact thing that he's doing, which is I glued my whole hand and I let it dry. You have to wait a while and then I slowly peeled it off. Then it was like you were seeing my hand, but a thin glue version of my hand.
Jenna [00:14:24] Yes. Why we got into this conversation, I don't know. But then Greg made it a scene. He turned it into this romantic, intimate, blowing on his hands sort of scene. It was incredible. Then I remember, when it was time for the phone call, I only had one scripted line. I was just supposed to be like, "Oh, hey, Vicki. Yeah, I think I can run by and grab that." And then Greg just kept the camera rolling and I just was improving this conversation with Vicki. And then John is standing there, as Jim, with his hands covered in glue. It was so wonderful. But it took a lot of time, and that's the sort of stuff we didn't have time for in the broadcast versions. But I loved it.
Angela [00:15:11] I loved that the scene was back in. It was romantic and then cringy, all at the same time. It also made me nostalgic of a childhood without devices. Because I think what you did was you put glue on your hands.
Jenna [00:15:22] Yes!
Angela [00:15:22] Right? You didn't have an iPad to keep you company. So, I loved it. So there's a few other storylines that were beefed up for the super fan version. One was about Dwight doing the schedule, right? If who would have to work on Saturdays. So there's more of that. People are going to him and presenting their cases of why they shouldn't have to work.
Jenna [00:15:42] There's also a full thirty seconds of him trying to put his giant dry erase board under his desk.
Angela [00:15:49] Yeah.
Jenna [00:15:49] And it's just... {starts laughing]
Angela [00:15:50] It's just straight up slapstick comedy.
Jenna [00:15:53] Yes, he's wrestling with this giant whiteboard. It was hilarious.
Angela [00:15:56] I know. Rainn is so good at that kind of physical humor. The other thing that's been beefed up is everything down in the warehouse. There's just so much more trash talk. But one of my favorite things that made its way into this extended version was a Pam talking head. So it would have come right after we learned that she's been engaged for three years and has no wedding date set, right?
Jenna [00:16:18] Yep.
Angela [00:16:19] Lady, it's the thing you pitched to Greg about Roy and the wave runners. This extended moment. We have to hear it.
audio clip - Pam [00:16:28] Well, I thought we were saving money for the wedding, but apparently Roy thought it was more important to buy two wave runners. I don't really ever even get to use the other wave runner, that's supposed to be mine, 'cause his brother uses it and they race.
Jenna [00:16:42] I'm not gonna lie, I actually laughed out loud at myself when I watched this talking head. It took me by surprise. It's very funny to me. "And they race" is the line that got me.
Angela [00:16:56] Yeah. But this is the thing you pitched to Greg! That he wasted the money to plan the wedding, to buy these stupid wave runners.
Jenna [00:17:05] Yeah, Greg asked me one day, "Why do you think Pam and Roy aren't married yet?" And I said, "Oh, I have a whole story for that."
Angela [00:17:14] It's so perfect, too. Okay, so the super fan episode also includes a big plot twist that is not in the broadcast version. Michael is in the bullpen and he's trying to pick his team. He says it's gonna be him, Ryan, Stanley, Jim, and (wait for it) Todd Packer. Todd Packer was gonna play in the basketball game! We find out (this, I couldn't believe) - Guess what his position is? Point guard.
Jenna [00:17:43] Yes. Phyllis, who wants to play in the game and is denied, is like, "Todd Packer doesn't even really work here." And Jim is like, "I thought this game was just for fun." Sort of being like, "Why can't Phyllis play?" And Michael's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Packer's really good. I just have to call him. I have to confirm he's in." So Michael goes into his office, he puts him on speakerphone. Packer is completely Packer; totally inappropriate, and then he just bails on the game. But what's crazy, is that it's not David Koechner on the phone because David Koechner had not been cast yet.
Angela [00:18:17] Yep.
Jenna [00:18:18] I'm assuming that it was Toby Huss, who originated the voice of Todd Packer before Dave was cast. You reached out to Dave Rogers, right, Ange?
Angela [00:18:27] I did. I asked him about it and I said, "Was that Toby?" And also, "Did it bump you to add this back in," because ultimately the role became David Koechner's role?" Right?
Jenna [00:18:40] Mm-hmm.
Angela [00:18:41] Here's what Dave said. He said, "You ladies are correct, that is not David Koechner. But I had no issue adding back this beat because Packer is played by the only other person who had ever played him on the show, and that is Toby Huss. Toby originally voiced Todd Packer in the pilot episode, when Michael is sitting with Pam and Jan in his office and he takes a call from Packer on speakerphone (and if you remember he's almost immediately inappropriate and saying things about Jan). Well that was Toby Huss." And then Dave went on to say, "For the scene in Basketball, I not only love Packer's inappropriateness, but it also illuminates the stress Michael has put on himself with this game when you get to see moments like this because his star player has just bailed on him."
Jenna [00:19:24] Yeah. I thought this was actually pretty cool. A lot of the extra footage in the Basketball super fan happens before the basketball game, I noticed. There's a little bit added to the actual game, but most of it is this tension. You get more of the romantic tension between Jim and Pam, and then you get this tension of what is the team gonna be?
Angela [00:19:45] Mm-hmm.
Jenna [00:19:46] So I I liked it too because it's all adding to the stakes. It's all adding to Michael's stress.
Angela [00:19:52] One of the other things that's added back in, that I loved, are so many non speaking moments. Like you said, up in the bullpen, all these people are shooting of trash into their trash bins and they're all really good at making the shot. The only person that misses is Stanley.
Jenna [00:20:07] And Dwight.
Angela [00:20:08] And Dwight, right. But you just get to see the full bullpen do it. Then the other thing I loved was all the stretching. Michael does so much stretching.
Jenna [00:20:17] Yes, so much stretching.
Angela [00:20:21] And the camera angles. Oh my god.
Jenna [00:20:23] It's a real low angle.
Angela [00:20:24] He does this one stretch, he's on the ground. I don't know what kind of stretch it is, but the camera is just crotch up. [laughing] It's ridiculous.
Jenna [00:20:32] So I know I said that a lot of the extra material comes before the basketball game, but there are a lot of extra shots in the basketball game. In particular, there are a lot of shots of Michael throwing the ball out of the warehouse doors as he's trying to shoot a basket. Like, there's so many more of those. I was gonna count how many, but after I got to eight, I stopped counting. He also calls, like, a million fouls on nothing.
Angela [00:21:04] So many.
Jenna [00:21:04] So that's some of the humor that's added back to the basketball game.
Angela [00:21:08] Okay, well, speaking of Michael and his antics on the court, I wanted to share this. So before I even watched the super fan episode, I was reading Dave Rogers' list of added Basketball moments. They're almost all about Michael. And Jenna, just reading Dave's list made me laugh out loud. This is just part of it. Listen to how hilarious these are. Ready?
Jenna [00:21:31] Mm-hmm.
Angela [00:21:32] "Michael throws basketball over the backboard."
Jenna [00:21:34] I told you.
Angela [00:21:36] "About four feet away, Michael yells, 'three,' shoots, and hits the front of the rim." That one is hilarious.
Jenna [00:21:43] Mm-hmm.
Angela [00:21:44] "Michael throws basketball into rafters and complains his ACL is bothering him." "Michael calls foul on Daryl for double dribble." "Michael calls foul because someone got his hand." "Michael calls foul on Roy, illegal use of hands and arms." "Michael calls foul on Lonnie, who doesn't touch him." "Michael is exhausted and subs out and Phyllis goes in. Michael sits on the bench next to Angela and Pam about to throw up, and Phyllis scores." That throw up scene is so great.
Jenna [00:22:13] Mm-hmm.
Angela [00:22:14] He sits next to us and just proceeds to gag. It was so hard not to laugh.
Jenna [00:22:20] I think the basketball episode is a really good example of it's very, very documentary style because there are so many little bitty moments that we did not have time for in the original version. I totally see why Dave loves this super fan version so much.
Angela [00:22:38] Yeah. Well I have one last thing I wanna share. It's a background catch by Angela K. in Los Angeles.
Jenna [00:22:46] [laughing] Okay, what does she have to say?
Angela [00:22:48] If you go to 27 minutes and 21 seconds, you will see Oscar doing something in the background of the basketball game. Do you remember what he was doing?
Jenna [00:22:58] Yeah, he was, like, doing work.
Angela [00:23:00] No.
Jenna [00:23:00] Is that what you mean?
Angela [00:23:01] No.
Jenna [00:23:02] What's he doing?
Angela [00:23:03] He's reading the paper. The newspaper! Oscar is reading the local newspaper.
Jenna [00:23:13] You're doing a Paper tie-in?
Angela [00:23:14] I was, like, "What foreshadowing!" Like, Oscar is reading the local Scranton newspaper.
Jenna [00:23:21] It's pretty perfect.
Angela [00:23:22] I mean, right?
Jenna [00:23:23] He does love a local paper, I guess.
Angela [00:23:25] I don't know. It got me tickled, so I just thought I'd bring it up.
Jenna [00:23:28] Well, listen, this feels like a good time to take a break. When we come back, we will have Karly Rothenberg in studio with us. But since you mentioned it, Angela, this also seems like a good time to remind people that starting in the new year, we are going to be breaking down every episode of "The Paper" because it's now showing on NBC on Monday nights at 8:30. So watch it, head over to officeladies.com, send us your questions, and join us in the new year for those breakdowns.
Angela [00:23:58] And you know we're gonna do it right because we still chat with everybody who's working on the paper. So we're gonna get all the inside scoop for ya.
Jenna [00:24:05] I mean we already have emails out to Kelly Cantley, Ken Kwapis, Dave Rogers, Michael Coleman, Greg Daniels, Chelsea Frei. We're already chatting with people!
Angela [00:24:14] That's right, guys.
Jenna [00:24:15] But that's for the new year. After the break, is our interview with Karly Rothenberg, aka Madge from the Warehouse.
audio cue [00:24:32] [musical outro/intro]
Jenna [00:24:32] Hello!
Karly [00:24:33] Hello.
Jenna [00:24:33] Karly, how are you? It's so nice to have you in the studio with us!
Karly [00:24:38] Thank you for having me.
Angela [00:24:38] Welcome to Office Ladies!
Karly [00:24:40] It's very exciting to be here. Hello!
Jenna [00:24:43] You brought stuff. I mean, you brought us roses.
Karly [00:24:45] I did.
Jenna [00:24:46] You brought us jingle jangle jingle.
Angela [00:24:49] The best holiday snack ever, for anyone that has a Trader Joe's.
Karly [00:24:52] Mm-hmm.
Jenna [00:24:53] But you also have a folder. What is this?
Karly [00:24:55] I dug through - I actually started by looking for my original Basketball script.
Angela [00:25:03] Oh, wow.
Karly [00:25:04] Which I know everybody autographed.
Jenna [00:25:07] Oh yeah?
Karly [00:25:08] Yeah. It is somewhere in my file cabinet, encased in something sealed and I couldn't find it. But I did find my original audition.
Angela [00:25:25] Oh! Oh Karly, that's so great!
Jenna [00:25:27] And your visitor's pass, right?
Karly [00:25:29] And my visitor's pass for my audition for Madge. I didn't audition for Madge, I auditioned with Jerry's lines.
Jenna [00:25:42] They used to do that though.
Angela [00:25:43] Yeah.
Jenna [00:25:44] They would have just one scene that everybody read, like Jerry, warehouse worker. Then they would kind of get to know you, or your personality, and they'd be like, "I have an idea." I wonder if that's what happened with Madge.
Karly [00:25:59] Well I think what happened was, they were auditioning me for Madge the warehouse gal, but they didn't have any lines for me.
Angela [00:26:07] Not yet, yeah.
Karly [00:26:07] Because she didn't have any lines. So they had me read Jerry's part and it was on October 11, 2004.
Angela [00:26:15] Wow.
Karly [00:26:16] At 10:20 in the morning to see Allison Jones at Sunset Gower Studios. I was reading the role of Jerry and I auditioned with Marla, not with Allison. I remember, Marla put me on camera.
Jenna [00:26:31] Okay.
Angela [00:26:31] I remember Marla.
Karly [00:26:32] Well, Marla interviewed me after that and she says, "Do you play basketball?" And I said, "Sort of. I'm a nanny to a little boy." At the time I was taking care of a little boy, whose name is Joshua. He's the best human being ever. I think, at the time, he was, like, six or seven. We played horse in his front yard, like, every day after school. He would be like, "Come on, we gotta play horse."
Angela [00:27:00] So you were shooting hoops.
Karly [00:27:02] That was the extent of it, and I was terrible at it. I was absolutely terrible at it. My dad and my brother had taught me how to play basketball when I was a kid, but all I ever did was play horse. I think my dad, at the most, would pick me up and help me shoot the basket. I was horrible at basketball. I couldn't dribble.
Angela [00:27:20] What did you say to Marla when she asked you?
Karly [00:27:22] I said, "I can play horse. I have a little boy, that I take care of, that I play horse with. But that's about the extent of my basketball experience." And she goes, "Okay, okay, great."
Jenna [00:27:32] I am shocked, learning this information, because we just rewatched the basketball episode and I think you play very well. I would never know! You said you don't dribble? I'm like, "I have no memory of you being a bad dribbler."
Karly [00:27:50] If you look close, I never dribble the ball down the court.
Jenna [00:27:50] Is that right?
Karly [00:27:51] Nope. Never. Never.
Angela [00:27:52] But you're really good at guarding Dwight. You held your own.
Karly [00:27:55] I knew how to guard. That much I knew. I found out I had booked it, and I went running to Target and I ran and I bought a basketball. I came home and I told my husband, "You need to teach me how to dribble a basketball, now." And he was like, "What?" And I said, "You don't understand. I just booked a show and I need to learn how to play basketball." And he was like, "Honey, I can't teach you how to play basketball in, like, one weekend." And I said, "Try, please."
Angela [00:28:29] So was that your weekend, you and your husband trying to play basketball?
Karly [00:28:34] It was like cramming to try and play basketball and I sucked at it so badly. My husband is six foot five. So he really was blocking and doing all this stuff and he was like, "Try and go around me" and I was like, "I can't, you're too tall." So I did my best. I did my best and I practiced all weekend long and then when I got to set - it was funny, 'cause the first day on set I had to go through these massive wardrobe changes. Greg was like, "No, that's too frilly, that's too frou. We need to find something else" and they finally gave me the cutoff T shirt with whatever number it was, thirty eight, on it.
Angela [00:29:16] Wait, what is that? Is that a picture of you from set?
Karly [00:29:21] I made a post card, because I was so excited about the show. So I made a postcard to mail out, because back in those days you actually mailed out postcards as an announcement.
Jenna [00:29:29] I did this with when I did theater in LA. You would put a picture of yourself and we had a quote, we were, like, "LA weekly pick of the week."
Angela [00:29:39] Oh yeah.
Jenna [00:29:40] And then you would make a postcard and you would mail that to all the casting directors in town. You want them to see it.
Karly [00:29:46] To their offices, right. Yeah.
Angela [00:29:47] I did the same thing, "Backstage West."
Karly [00:29:49] Right. It was funny because they couldn't find the right outfit for me and eventually they did.
Angela [00:30:02] This post card is amazing.
Karly [00:30:02] That was the best shot. I don't even remember who took that.
Angela [00:30:07] What's so great about this picture (and I'll put it in our Insta stories, you guys), it's Karly as Madge, you're dripping with sweat and you look like you've just played a lot of basketball. You have a really miserable expression. It's the date and time of the episode. This is fantastic.
Karly [00:30:24] It was so much fun. I remember I went into hair and makeup and I know one of you were there and Katie was there. One of you was there and Katie was there and somebody looked up at me and said, "Don't expect much." Oh no, Phyllis and Katie were in there. And they were like, "Don't expect much. It's not that kind of show" and I was like, "What do you mean?" And there's no makeup. There's, like, nada. I was like, "Okay, fine. I don't... This is me, I don't wear much."
Angela [00:30:52] I mean, Karly, you and I have the same hairstyle in this episode.
Karly [00:30:55] I know! I know. We both have a braid.
Angela [00:30:59] We both just put it in a French braid and called it a day.
Karly [00:31:00] Yeah, that was it. And I had the bangs back then and and they just kept getting sweatier and sweatier and nobody cared about anything. The only mistake I made was, I think, in the warehouse scene. I made the mistake of climbing the rolling stairs.
Angela [00:31:18] Oh yeah?
Karly [00:31:19] In the first scene. And I think I had to do that fifty times.
Angela [00:31:23] Oh, 'cause they liked it and it had to match.
Jenna [00:31:25] In the background?
Karly [00:31:26] It was like doing a stairmaster.
Jenna [00:31:29] So was that on your first day of shooting and then you had to come back with the sore legs and play basketball?
Karly [00:31:38] You know how we all had those honeywagons that very first episode and you decorated them for Halloween? It was so cute.
Angela [00:31:45] Kate and I, yes. We just talked about that. We went to the ninety nine cent store and decorated everything.
Karly [00:31:51] It was the cutest thing. Everything had little boos and ghosts and everything. But Leslie's trailer was here and then Brian and then me, or whatever. And I remember Leslie was sitting on his stairs and Brian was sitting on his and I tried to get up into my trailer and I was like, "Ow" and Leslie looked at me and he goes, "Arnica! Arnica!" And I was like, "What?" And he goes, "Go get yourself some Arnica gel. It's the only thing. That, and a hot bath." And I was like, "Okay."
Angela [00:32:20] That is so Leslie, isn't it?
Jenna [00:32:22] A hot bath! I love it.
Angela [00:32:23] So many times, he told us to take a hot bath.
Karly [00:32:26] My legs hurt so bad after the third day and we were filming and all I kept doing was running up and down the court, up and down. We were on a concrete floor and my legs hurt so bad. It was, like, the third day and it was like I couldn't walk anymore.
Jenna [00:32:42] Well you know, we had the opposite problem. Which is that we sat on that metal bench
Angela [00:32:47] with no cushion
Jenna [00:32:48] for three days and my butt and legs kept falling asleep.
Angela [00:32:52] Mm-hmm.
Jenna [00:32:53] Or that thing that happens where... Like, I also couldn't walk 'cause I was stiff from sitting in the same position for hours and hours.
Angela [00:33:02] Also we I mean, whatever, overshare, but that bench had these long grooved lines in it. When I went home and I changed clothes, I had like waffle print. But this is a really great tip for any aspiring actor out there. Whatever you do in the background on the first take, you will be doing over and over and over again.
Karly [00:33:25] One of my friends had told me, a long time ago, "Never ever, ever pick a tough job to do." On one commercial shoot, he made the mistake of choosing a jackhammer.
Angela [00:33:38] Oh no.
Karly [00:33:39] He was, like, really sorry he ever did that. I'll never forget that, 'cause afterwards I was like, "Why did I choose to go up and down the stairs?" My business was to go up the stairs and get a box and bring it down, or go up the stairs and put a box up on a shelf. I was like, "What was I thinking?" I couldn't move after.
Jenna [00:33:57] We've all done it.
Angela [00:33:58] Yeah, we have. We have.
Karly [00:33:59] It was like the fourth day, I think it was? Or the it was the last day? Was it the last day of shooting, when I fell?
Jenna [00:34:07] I think it was. Thankfully, it was the last day of shooting because you didn't have to come back. You fell and hurt your knee.
Karly [00:34:13] Yeah. I did.
Angela [00:34:15] Really badly.
Karly [00:34:16] And I didn't want anybody to know. I thought I was gonna try and hide it. I was chasing Steve down court. He went tearing after and I went running after him and my legs were just, like, not working. They just stopped working, and I just went flying and I landed on my left knee.
Angela [00:34:37] On the concrete.
Karly [00:34:37] Caught right on the concrete. And I got up and I kept running and I kept playing and then they said "cut." And I immediately went back to the back, where I think there was a cooler filled with ice and drinks or something like that. And I just very quickly grabbed a Ziploc baggie and filled it with ice and didn't say anything. I just sat there and sat down for a minute. It was really hurting. So I just kind of quietly came out and I sat down on the bench next to you and I had the ice pack on my knee and I moved it for a second and you looked down at my knee and you went, "Oh my God!" And I was like, "Shhhhh!"
Jenna [00:35:14] I was gonna say, my memory is that that thing swelled up fast.
Karly [00:35:20] It was huge.
Jenna [00:35:21] I kind of remember being like, "You gotta... We gotta get the medic. We gotta tell somebody."
Angela [00:35:30] My memory was it didn't match your other knee, at all.
Karly [00:35:32] Nope. Not close.
Angela [00:35:33] I was like, "Oh my gosh." And then Jenna, I think you got the medic, didn't you?
Jenna [00:35:37] Did I?
Karly [00:35:37] Yeah. You did.
Angela [00:35:38] That was my memory.
Jenna [00:35:42] You know, you guys. I have that part of me. "I smell gas in the work bus. This injury needs attending to."
Karly [00:35:51] She took one look and she said, "No, we're gonna do an accident report." I was sitting back in the back and I was like, "I am so mortified. I didn't want to deal with this. It's fine, I'll be fine, blah, blah, blah." And she said, "No, we're gonna have you have that checked out." They filled out the forms and did the whole thing. I was mortified because I was like, "Oh my God, we're not done filming, and this is terrible," and I'd never hurt myself on a set before. This was my first three-day job, ever, three days of filming. I had done two other jobs before this. It was huge.
Angela [00:36:26] It's a big deal, yeah.
Jenna [00:36:29] I remember you being worried, like, "Will they ever bring me back, because I got hurt?" And that's such a thing when you're an actor starting out; an accident happens but you're afraid you'll get branded as difficult, or whatever. But, thankfully, I feel like especially on The Office, that wasn't the tone of our set.
Karly [00:36:53] Yeah.
Jenna [00:36:53] And you needed medical attention and we did bring you back. It was all fine.
Karly [00:36:58] Yeah. I was so grateful.
Angela [00:37:01] Well, I want you to know that in the super fan version on Peacock, all of your stuff with Dwight: Madge and Dwight going down the court against each other is all in there. Clearly that happened before you hurt your knee. And you know what? I'm so glad. Now people will see how hard you were busting your ass on that court.
Karly [00:37:23] I was trying. Who was the guy who choreographed the basketball game? There was somebody there.
Angela [00:37:29] Oh, we had a stunt coordinator that choreographed the game. But then there was parts of it that, you know, you guys were just running back and forth and just freestyling. But if you watch the super fan version, Madge and Dwight really square off a lot. What was that like? 'Cause we know Rainn. Rainn goes all out.
Karly [00:37:47] Yeah. There was a a stunt coordinator who actually showed me how it was gonna work and it was a choreographed thing. When he grabs it from me, we're supposed to fight and there were a couple of times where I think we even ended up on the ground.
Angela [00:38:05] Yeah. You did.
Karly [00:38:06] Yeah. I was like, "I'm not letting go of the ball. I'm not letting go of the ball." And he got into it and I got into it. We started fighting, and it was so much fun because I just got mad at him. I was like, "Back off, man, just back off!" And he goes, "No, not gonna back off." And I'm going, "Get out of my face." He's like, "In your face!"
Angela [00:38:34] It was really good and feels very honest. But that whole storyline between Dwight and Madge reminded me of that eight year old boy on like the school yard that you're playing kickball with who goes so super hard. And you're like, "Buddy, relax." Except it's a grown man.
Karly [00:38:52] And if I hadn't hurt myself, we almost had this little secret thing that we were gonna do behind the boxes. When he takes a sip of water and he spills it all over his face?
Angela [00:39:04] Yeah.
Karly [00:39:04] Right before that, we were gonna have this little secret thing behind the boxes and that never came to fruition.
Angela [00:39:12] What secret thing? Like a Dwight/Madge hookup?
Jenna [00:39:15] Like, this was all foreplay, on the court.
Angela [00:39:17] Oh my gosh. He met his physical match and he was turned on.
Karly [00:39:21] We were gonna come up with something and then it never happened, unfortunately, but as it turned out, obviously it never needed to happen.
Angela [00:39:33] I think it would have worked. You know what have been great? Is if Angela found out and then Angela hated Madge.
Karly [00:39:39] Oh my gosh.
Jenna [00:39:42] Well, speaking of scenes in the warehouse where things were added, I want to jump to the "Boys and Girls" episode. Cause Dave Rogers wants you to know that he put an extra talking head of yours into it. This is when the documentary crew is filming down in the warehouse and they find Madge pushing a cart of supplies. It's very funny. We're gonna play it.
audio clip - Madge [00:40:07] Don't tape me. I'm wanted in three states.
Karly [00:40:12] Did I say "don't videotape me?"
Angela [00:40:15] "Don't tape me." Yeah. What is she wanted for?
Karly [00:40:20] Oh my god. That's hysterical.
Jenna [00:40:23] Do you even remember doing that? I feel like that must have been an improv moment.
Karly [00:40:29] Totally.
Jenna [00:40:29] Right? Or something they fed you on the day?
Angela [00:40:33] They were capturing little moments in the warehouse, because right before that is Lonnie and they're filming him. He's got that giant plastic saran wrap and he's wrapping it around the boxes. And he's like, "Sometimes I pretend to be a car. [makes car noise]" And then it cuts to you and you're pushing the cart and you're surly from the get-go. You have to check out some of these super fans because there's more Madge.
Jenna [00:40:59] Mm-hmm. We also want to ask you about "Safety Training."
Karly [00:41:04] Oh my god.
Jenna [00:41:05] So this is the episode where Madge gets her nickname from Michael.
Karly [00:41:10] Pudge.
Jenna [00:41:10] Mm-hmm. You are so funny in that scene.
Karly [00:41:13] I found the shooting script for that. That one I saved on my computer. First of all, Harold Ramis, what?
Angela [00:41:22] I know.
Karly [00:41:24] When I saw that, I almost jumped out of my skin because Avery Schreiber was my mentor from Second City. Avery and Harold and Mina Kolb and Severn Darden, all the original OGs from Second City... Harold told me this: we were all at one of the fabulous lunches that we always had together.
Angela [00:41:49] Yes, at the big long tables.
Karly [00:41:51] Yes. That's one of the things I love about this cast is that every time, from the first week when we shot Basketball, we all sat down family style. I mean, the first week I had dinner with you guys. I sat down with John Krasinski and his parents. Do you remember that? He brought his parents to that episode.
Jenna [00:42:12] Yeah.
Karly [00:42:13] And I was like, "Oh my god" and Harold sat there telling Second City stories. It was Harold and B J and me and Phyllis and you. It was like, "I'm having lunch with Harold Ramis. What is happening?"
Angela [00:42:26] I know.
Karly [00:42:27] He told Second City stories that were just irreplaceable. So that was a gift, to have that moment. In the Safety Training episode, there were no lines - God bless BJ Novak, he wrote me into the episodes I was in. It was because he wrote me in. I didn't have any lines. We were just all standing there and then he said, "Her is qualified to ride the forklift." And Lonnie kind of nudged me and I went, "Madge. It's Madge." And Steve goes, "Thought your name was 'Pudge.'" And I'm like, "No, it's always been Madge." And I looked over and you guys were all busting up.
Jenna [00:43:09] It was so funny.
Angela [00:43:10] So funny. Well, you know, in Boys and Girls, one of my favorite moments is the character reveal that you're there. Cause It's just the men in a circle.
Karly [00:43:18] Guy's gripe session. Yeah.
Angela [00:43:19] Yeah, and then you lean forward and there you are and it busts me up every time I watch it.
Karly [00:43:26] Dennie snuck that one. I love her. She was so much fun. We were all sitting on boxes and she was like, "Hide behind David and John "and I was like, "What? Okay." Then, somehow or another, David looks out of the corner of his eye to indicate to Michael, "There's somebody else here. You're getting it wrong." Then I just kind of leaned forward and I was like, "Hey, you want me to go?" And then Steve got this look on his face, like, "No. Why would I why would I want you to go?" And I was like, '"Cause I don't belong here, you moron. Why am I not upstairs with the women?"
Angela [00:44:16] I so wish Madge had come upstairs. Wouldn't that have been so fun?
Karly [00:44:19] I would have loved that.
Jenna [00:44:21] That would have been really, really fun to have you come upstairs and be part of the insane conversation we were having out here.
Karly [00:44:29] Yeah. I know.
Jenna [00:44:32] That would have been wonderful.
Karly [00:44:33] But it was funny. It was funny. Dennie choreographed that really well. When I walk by him, the expression on his face was just priceless.
Jenna [00:44:44] So wonderful.
Karly [00:44:45] It was just priceless. That was fun. That was very, very fun.
Jenna [00:44:48] Can we also discuss some deleted scenes from "Secret Santa?"
Karly [00:44:53] Yes.
Jenna [00:44:53] Do you remember these? Do you know what I'm gonna say?
Karly [00:44:55] My Garfield pasta.
Jenna [00:44:57] Yes! Yes. Well it's been added back to the Peacock super fan episode. Let me set it up and then we're gonna listen to it.
Karly [00:45:06] Okay.
Jenna [00:45:06] So this is the party that Jim and Dwight are planning. Jim is nervous because the warehouse folks have now been invited to this party and they're worried that they're not gonna have enough food. So everybody's standing in line, from the warehouse, to get food, and he says, "It's just finger foods," kind of like, "please don't don't take a lot" and one lasagna. And then here's what happens.
audio clip - Jim [00:45:33] So guys, this is more like finger food.
audio clip - warehouse worker [00:45:36] Uh-oh, a lasagna. Look out, Garfield!
audio clip - Jim [00:45:39] Uh-oh. What does that mean?
audio clip - Madge [00:45:40] Oh, they call me Garfield. I've never seen a lasagna and not eaten in the whole pan.
audio clip - Jim [00:45:45] I wish you wouldn't.
audio clip - Madge [00:45:46] Oh, well, I can't help myself. Can you imagine what it's like for me? That it has that power over me? I gotta have some. Sorry guys. Everybody get some?
audio clip - warehouse worker [00:45:56] I got mine.
audio clip - Madge [00:45:57] Okay.
Jenna [00:46:00] Okay, so that's the scene, but then what happens? We're outside of the conference room, and inside the conference room you are eating all of the rest of the lasagna and all the warehouse guys are screaming "Garfield! Garfield!"
Angela [00:46:16] How much lasagna did you eat? That's our question.
Karly [00:46:20] A half a pan.
Jenna [00:46:21] [gasping]
Angela [00:46:21] [shocked] Oh!
Karly [00:46:22] No, no, I had a spit bucket.
Angela [00:46:24] Okay.
Karly [00:46:24] I had a spit bucket. They had three shirt changes, which I didn't need 'cause I was very careful. But there was a spit bucket right there and I think you were the one that suggested that I needed one. Thank you.
Angela [00:46:35] You know why? You know how we all say, "Be careful what you do in the background?" Mine was the very first time we ate ice cream cake. It was t"The Alliance" and it was Meredith's birthday. I took a big old bite of that ice cream cake at seven in the morning. I was so excited and then we ate it for hours. I still, to this day, I'm like, "I don't want any ice cream cake." .
Karly [00:47:01] And it was good. I mean it was delicious because whoever at Crafty made it was wonderful. But after about the fourth time...
Angela [00:47:12] The fourth half of lasagna you ate.
Karly [00:47:17] I think whoever did it, they left me, like, this quarter in the tray. So I just had to really put the whole thing up and just scoop it in like that.
Angela [00:47:27] Yeah, 'cause you're like shoving it in your mouth.
Karly [00:47:30] And the whole corner of the pan is up like this. But the funny part was that when I walked in, I had worked so hard on my lines because I wanted to get them right because this is my first scene with John. He completely improvised. And I was confused and he said, "Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was gonna improvise something." I was like, "No, that's fine. I just was ready for something else." And he said, "No, I'll do the other thing." I was like, "I'm fine now that I know you were gonna go off in a different direction." He was like, "No, no, no, I'll stick to what we got." I was like, "Sorry." So I got really nervous after that.
[00:48:07] Then Craig started chanting "Garfield, Garfield," and I was like, "Please don't do that. I'm gonna laugh. I'm gonna laugh and choke to death. Please don't do that." But then this spit bucket happened, and then we shot it and I didn't get any shirts dirty, and I was like, "Okay, I did that right. Everything's cool." We finished shooting and then they said, "Okay, let's take a break. Everybody go and you know..." Crafty set up lunch, and I walk outside and I open the lid and they're serving lasagna, and I go, "Oh look, lasagna."
Jenna [00:48:38] It was probably all the lasagnas we didn't use in the scene. They're like, "We know what we're gonna do with the extra lasagna."
Karly [00:48:45] Somebody said, "Karly gets quote of the day," so I got quote of the day on the sheet.
Angela [00:48:50] On the call sheet?
Jenna [00:48:52] Oh yeah.
Karly [00:48:53] I was like, "Oh no, I didn't mean to be ungrateful, but for lunch? Yay."
Angela [00:49:00] No, everybody got it. That was brilliant. It was great. Well, I wanted to ask you about the day that we learned the SCARN. Do you remember that? We all got to do the SCRAN.
Karly [00:49:10] I do. We all had to practice in that side room. That was hysterical.
Angela [00:49:15] And I was so worried I wasn't gonna get it right. I can't dance, Karly. I just can't. You have to really break it down for me. I think you can see me counting. But that was so fun.
Karly [00:49:27] That was hysterical. They made me change my hair.
Angela [00:49:31] Mm-hmm.
Karly [00:49:31] 'Cause I had a braid and you had a braid.
Angela [00:49:33] Even though, in basketball, it was okay that we both had the same hair. I guess for the scarn they wanted us to have different hair.
Karly [00:49:38] Yeah, I had to have different hair. I sat at the bar with Jean and Lee.
Angela [00:49:48] I remember they positioned us, a little bit, by height. So I was in the front 'cause I'm Shorty Mc Shorty.
Jenna [00:49:58] You know, "Threat Level: Midnight" was another BJ Novak script. He really did bring you back a lot.
Karly [00:50:04] He wrote me in, literally, once a season.
Angela [00:50:08] Oh that's great.
Karly [00:50:09] Yeah. So if it wasn't for him and Mindy, I would not have been in almost every season.
Jenna [00:50:16] Wow.
Karly [00:50:17] Yeah. Whenever I came back I always said "Thank you for writing me in." He said, "My pleasure." It was literally, like, once a season.
Angela [00:50:25] That's great. We've definitely noticed, over the years of rewatching the show, themes that writers were drawn to some characters and would bring them back. So I love that.
Karly [00:50:34] I'm incredibly grateful.
Jenna [00:50:37] Alright, well listen, why don't we take a break? When we come back, we're gonna ask you our call sheet questions and we're gonna ask you our Office question of the week.
audio cue [00:50:44] [musical outro/intro]
Angela [00:50:55] Alright, we are back and it is time for the call sheet questions. I'm gonna kick us off with number one. Karly, what was your first entertainment job?
Karly [00:51:05] The first official entertainment job was my friend John Putch hired me for my first Hallmark movie and it was with Louise Fletcher.
Jenna [00:51:18] Whoa.
Karly [00:51:19] Oh, oh, oh. I mean, and Doris Roberts.
Angela [00:51:23] Wow.
Karly [00:51:24] And Dana Delaney.
Jenna [00:51:27] Wow.
Karly [00:51:27] And it was a Hallmark picture called "A Time to Remember." It was also with my friend Michael Dean Jacobs. Literally a direct hire, John wanted to hire me, and I played Cousin Connie. Doris Roberts was Dana Delaney's mom, who had Alzheimer's, and Louise Fletcher played Aunt Billy. It was a Thanksgiving movie called "A Time to Remember," and it plays, literally, on Hallmark every Thanksgiving.
Angela [00:51:59] Oh no way.
Karly [00:52:00] Yeah, and that was my first big job. I was on set for three days and I just looked at him and I said, "You sat me next to Louise Fletcher at a Thanksgiving table" and he says, "Just enjoy the ride." And I was like, "I'm sitting next to Nurse Ratchet."
Angela [00:52:18] Amazing.
Jenna [00:52:22] Alright. Question number two. Do you speak any other languages?
Karly [00:52:27] I speak French, sort of... Cause I took it in junior high so...
Jenna [00:52:34] Un peu de francais. [A little French]
Karly [00:52:36] Un peu de francais, oui. [A little French, yes.]
Angela [00:52:38] Sounds good to me.
Karly [00:52:39] It got me through living in Paris for a month.
Jenna [00:52:44] That's pretty good.
Karly [00:52:45] Because I was with the touring company of "Hair." When I was in New York, I auditioned for it when I was training in New York and I got the International Touring Company of "Hair."
Angela [00:52:57] That's amazing!
Jenna [00:52:58] So you did hair?
Karly [00:53:00] Yeah.
Jenna [00:53:00] Okay, you know what "Hair" is famous for?
Angela [00:53:03] We all know how that goes at the end. Did you do it?
Karly [00:53:06] I did, because I was in Paris and nobody in Paris knew me and they were all used to seeing naked people on the stage. So nobody knew me, so...
Jenna [00:53:15] Wow.
Karly [00:53:17] I was a lot younger. That was 1984.
Angela [00:53:20] Karly, you are an onion. There are layers. Alright, next question. What's a place you've been to that you absolutely loved?
Karly [00:53:30] I love Hawaii. I love any place in Hawaii. I was also very, very fortunate to take two really cool trips to Kenya. The first was with my mom and dad.
Angela [00:53:45] Oh wow.
Karly [00:53:46] They wanted to take me on safari, so I got to go to Tanzania and the Serengeti with my mom and dad. That was in 2009.
Jenna [00:53:58] Mm-hmm.
Karly [00:53:59] And then my dad wanted to take me on a cruise to Greece. I enjoyed the trip with him and his new wife. But my mom passed away in 2018, but I got to go with him and his new wife. I'd have to say Alaska was the last place that we got to go. That was really cool. I love Alaska. I love the air. It's so beautiful and clean.
Jenna [00:54:26] But you've traveled a lot.
Angela [00:54:27] Mm-hmm.
Karly [00:54:27] Mostly 'cause my dad is a big traveler and he's been kind enough to sort of include the family always. So that's kinda cool.
Jenna [00:54:37] It's interesting to me, though, of all of these places you've been in the world, your first instinct was to say Hawaii. There's something about Hawaii.
Karly [00:54:46] It's just magical. That's where my soul would go. If I could just get on a plane and go, I would go to Hawaii.
Angela [00:54:54] It's a great answer. I love "where my soul would go." I like that phrase.
Jenna [00:54:59] Alright, next question. What do you like to do on the weekends?
Karly [00:55:03] I like to garden. I like to garden and I like to bake. My grandfather was a baker and he had a bakery in Queens and he was a pastry chef. So I sort of inherited little bit, not as much skill, that's for sure. But I love gardening and when the sun is out and it's just crisp, cool weather, that's sort of my favorite time to do. So I plant daffodils and try and keep my backyard in order, which now with three dogs is a little more difficult. But I like gardening.
Angela [00:55:38] I love all that. Okay, last question. What is your favorite midnight snack?
Karly [00:55:47] Dark chocolate anything. Dark chocolate caramel with the sea salt.
Angela [00:55:52] Oh yeah. Forget it. All day long. Yeah.
Jenna [00:55:57] Alright. Last thing is our Office question of the week. So we really enjoyed last week. We got a would you rather question from Lisa in Calgary, when we spoke with Teri Weinberg.
Karly [00:56:09] I love Teri Weinberg!
Angela [00:56:10] I know, she's the best.
Jenna [00:56:12] Well, in honor of you being here, Karly, we thought we could do a warehouse related would you rather question. An Office warehouse. Here it is. This is as you okay as you Karly.
Angela [00:56:28] Karly. Not Madge.
Jenna [00:56:29] Right. Would Karly rather play in the basketball game against Michael or attend Michael Scott's "Men in the Workplace" seminar? You have to attend one of these events. Which one would you go to?
Angela [00:56:46] Your face has the most pained expression. They're both horrible choices. That's the whole point of would you rather, right?
Karly [00:56:55] As long as I don't hurt myself again, I'd rather redeem myself in the basketball game.
Jenna [00:57:01] Okay. That's fair.
Angela [00:57:03] Mm-hmm.
Karly [00:57:03] But I never got to be in the conference room.
Jenna [00:57:09] So I think your answer is that you would rather attend the "Women in the Workplace "seminar, up in the conference room. Angela, what do you pick? You have to go to one of these events.
Angela [00:57:20] Oh man. I mean, I love sports, but I think I would want to be in the seminar, just because it would be ridiculous with Michael running it and I think I'd like to ask stupid questions that I know are stupid.
Jenna [00:57:36] Just to frustrate him? To watch him melt down?
Angela [00:57:39] Exactly. Like, just something like "Can we discuss belts?"
Karly [00:57:43] Yeah.
Angela [00:57:44] "Do I have to wear a belt?" I don't know.
Karly [00:57:46] "Why do I have to have my hair back in the warehouse?"
Angela [00:57:48] Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly.
Angela [00:57:51] Well Jenna, what about you?
Jenna [00:57:52] I would want to play in the basketball game.
Karly [00:57:54] Yay.
Jenna [00:57:55] I think it would be fun. I would enjoy that more than having to sit through a Michael Scott seminar.
Angela [00:58:00] Okay.
Jenna [00:58:01] That's me. Sam, Cassi, what would you like to do? I mean, I think we know the basketball game. We know Cassi's answer.
Cassi [00:58:10] Sign me up for basketball, please.
Jenna [00:58:11] Mm-hmm.
Karly [00:58:11] Yeah.
Sam [00:58:12] I gotta go with Michaels Men's meeting.
Angela [00:58:15] Sam, can I just say this is often how we're split? That its often me and you and then Jenna and Cassi?
Jenna [00:58:22] Well, Karly, thank you so much for coming into the studio and sharing your things and your stories. This was wonderful
Karly [00:58:30] It's my pleasure. Absolutely my pleasure. I'm so happy to see you guys and to share such fun memories and it is wonderful. It warms my heart. Thank you for having me.
Angela [00:58:44] Oh.
Karly [00:58:44] It's my pleasure.
Angela [00:58:45] Thank you so much.
Jenna [00:58:46] Thank you. And hey everyone, be sure to check your feeds on Friday because we've got a special holiday bonus episode coming your way with Ms. Kate Flannery.
Angela [00:58:57] That's right.
Karly [00:58:57] I love Katie.
Jenna [00:58:58] We'll see you then.
Karly [00:58:59] Yay.
Jenna [00:59:03] Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.
Angela [00:59:05] Office Ladies is a presentation of Audacy and is produced by Jenna Fischer and Angela. Kinsey.
Jenna [00:59:10] Our executive producer is Cassi Jerkins, our audio engineer is Sam Kieffer, and our associate producer is Aynsley Bubbico.
Angela [00:59:18] Audacy's executive producer is Leah Reis-Dennis.
Jenna [00:59:22] Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.
Angela [00:59:24] Our theme song is "Rubber Tree" by Creed Bratton.